Hi Tom, Aye I tried system restores back in the olden days when it first happened. I think I'm way beyond nuts now... :-) It's not that I'm any good with Poser, but I have so much stuff and I told my nephew I'd try and do him some cover art for his rock band and would have been handy for the web site I'm having done etc, sniff... It looks like I'm creeping towards a total re-install, oh lord!