So you can see how far Poser has advanced, here is the Poser 1 man and woman. I used them in a couple of images I've posted in the gallery here, too. http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=12263&Start=1&Artist=wyrwulf&ByArtist=Yes http://www.renderosity.com/viewed.ez?galleryid=12525&Start=1&Artist=wyrwulf&ByArtist=Yes