Hey thanks for the input Richard ! :o) But i guess i should have been somewhat clearer. My problems are with the suborders, everyone seems to have a different classification. CBIF does it like this: Order Lepidoptera Suborder Frenatae Suborder Jugatae Suborder Macrolepidoptera Suborder Microlepidoptera Others do it like this: Order Lepidoptera Suborder Zeugloptera Suborder Dacnonypha Suborder Exoporia Suborder Monotrysia Suborder Ditrysia Still others do it like this: Order Lepidoptera Suborder Rhopalocera Suborder Heterocera Or like this (also CBIF, on a different page(????)): Order Lepidoptera Suborder Glossata Suborder Zeugloptera Suborder Aglossata Suborder Heterobathmiina Yet other claim this is the right classification: Order Lepidoptera Suborder Jugatae Suborder Frenatae Suborder Rhopalocera Whats even worse is that although some systems use the same suborders, they put diferent SuperFamilies and Families in them than other systems do... Im confused CRY Anyways, thanks a lot for your help Richard !! :o) LOL about those watercolor painting hehe ;o) Have agreat day, Jeroen