tbird10, how did you do the flat lighting? I like the effect. maxxxmodelz, I am shy of node stuff like SSS... is there a way of faking this by compositing two essentially conventional renders? I think years ago Staale tried some strange aproach using a double skin arrangement on the figure (a hack on the specular?) but I would like to use conventional maps and DAZ figures... would a compositing of two different lighting set ups of some sort work?