There are a lot of fractalprograms with a 3d tool inside Nicky most are freeware so as FE ,Chaoscope,ChaosPro a lot of Qurtinion tools etc etc Why not use it ?? Its funny that the UF users, use hours and hours work for creating something what looks as a real sphere or Egg and i think why? As you have so much another tools But i have total not a problem with a special 3d fractal section :-) But this a old story the same for adding things in a fractal that not belong there and uploading it in the fractal section :-) I think let we have fun and try to create a nice end result Cheerio Arend