Thank you all for your help. Ladysilvermage I checked out that pack and it doesn't really have the hand pose I'm looking for but thanks for the tip it looks like a nice set anyway ;) Logan thank you for the link I will look around there also. I did try inverse on and off and neither helped me. I think posing is something beyond me...at least for the time being. I just can't get it. Thank you for the tips. JV gorgeous pose, I have sent you a pm. Thanks again everyone.