Agree... Ok..tried this again. Same lighting, some moved around for shadow. Like if she is outdoors. Nothing changed in render settings. Same character. Will add life to it, after I conquer this realism with lighting. IBL AO is confusing. I do my best to understand it. And also I tend to add an image to a IBL. Thinking I am getting the full effects. I played around with the IBL dials in Material room with Image attached to get a balance of things. Full figure image. This was a 1024x768 render. Then cropped to put in here. Now is 416x768 Doing a close up with same lighting, render settings.