on the subject of the horse: i don't know that much about horses, and i saw some pretty obvious errors with him. and his mesh breaking when his neck was at a reasonable angle was a really obvious problem. even now, his legs just look off to me, and i couldn't tell you the names of muscles or bones. and if my memory is correct, someone in the daz forums mentioned having a client (a publisher looking for a book cover, i think?) who turned down their work due to the the horse's lack of realism. so, yeah, it's all based on opinion, but you don't need to be an expert to take issue with the mill horse. i keep hoping jim burton will resume development on his horse. again, i don't know much about conformation (more like, don't know anything), but i thought it's legs, chest, and shoulders were gorgeous. and anything made by jim burton would have lovely joints that bend well.