bobsmash, You've probably said what has been thought by others, myself included, but I won't tell someone they can't sell their item, I just won't buy that item if it doesn't look like something I will use. I think we have gotten used to high quality and we are a bit spoiled. 8^) I just think there is a rush to sell without proper testing, and we are seeing that trend in a lot of places, not just here. I think people need to keep submitting stuffage for sale, just make sure your renders are clear and your item is properly tested. Also a clear, easy to follow readme is a great asset. Marque