AWSOME FIX THANKS SO FREAKING MUCH I have exactly the same issue with Denise from DM, not on any other texture so far - not that there is anything wrong with Densie she renders like the most stunning texture ever in global lighting in Vue but this negative highlight value comes through - thanks again for finding the problem I will go redner her now. I have always fixed it by surgically removing this part of the eye not a good idea- and Rhiannon's textures all have to have their cornea redone too, I will look for this type of issue. Thanks again.