Read the title of this thread. Every time I or someone else says somethong everybody compares this programme to other 3d stuff. OK. Maybe they're (3d programmes) all weird. I have not tried to the others. As a new Bryce trier-out, I have used a heap of Windows programmes, including a 3d drafting package or two. Bryce looks easy until you try to do stuff. If you know where to look it's not too bad. But with no tooltips, limited menus and buttons, triangles and key combos scattered everywhere, it is not logical. I do see that the suggested book for Bryce is 1000 pages; not far off the 1100 mentioned....the Help is way insufficient. Help takes ten lines to tell me where a control is. This has to indicate problems. If it were a menu you can Manu/Edit/View/DoWhatever and it's all over. Or there may be a shortcut key. But it's a part of the menu. Next time, your choice. Or you customise toolbars and have what you want on the screen for the stuff you use most. I cannot see the harm in changing the interface to suit more Windows-used people. Don't want menus? *Hide the menus. Don't want buttons? *Have Toolbars, that are customisable, dockable etc. But at any rate, have the same actions throughout the programme, or allow User choice. I do not expect to know all of the capabilities of this programme in a week. But I do feel that if after two weeks I am still "discovering" that I needed a key combination (no menu, or button) to some simple act, that I could only find by buying a 1000 page book or scanning many articles, then the interface can be improved. As a very least for instance: Why is there no "Zoom to Window" button"? We have Pan, Zoom In and Zoom out. But no Zoom to Window. Almost universal, but not here. Why, when I m ove across the buttons, do I not see Tooltips, should I require them? What possible harm can that do? Remember they are going to be fighto9ng for an increased market here, from....new users, used to Windows.