BTW, something I only found out recently (not sure if it's P6 only or I just missed it in P5). In the cloth room, if you activate one of the group editors, there's the option to "add material". And there all the materials of the cloth in the drop-down list. The reason this is important to me is 'cos (like I said before), I like playing aroud with meshes, but that means exporting them as .obj files, which loses any cloth-room grouping. So NOW what I do is assign different basic colours to each of the materials before exporting. Then import into 3d mesh-trashing app, fiddle about, export, re-import to P6 and since (eg) the buttons were a separate material, I can just add them back to the rigid decorated group by selecting them from the drop-down. OK, so I have to re-apply the original materials, but that's not usually a big job..and anyway, I usually want to change them to something else, just to be different:-) (Apologies if this is all self-evident to the experienced, am aiming this at the less experienced...) Cheers, Diolma