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I hope that the regulars here don't mind my speaking for them. If they do they can tell me so. :^) 1. We are users of Bryce. Some long-time users, some short-time users. Almost all of us have galleries, showing that we ARE users of varying abilities. 2. We did not write the program. Some of us can write code, but most of us are not programmers. If you have complaints about the program, you should go to the link provided and tell the folks at Daz. The programmers of Bryce are there, not here. 3. We did not write the manual, either. That would also be something you should discuss with Daz, as well. And by the way, if it's any consolation, we don't like the manual either. :^) We can recommend "Real World Bryce4" by Susan Kitchens, though, an excellent resource for Bryce that covers just about everything except Bryce trees and metaballs. We have written a lot of tutorials for different aspects of Bryce not covered in the manual. Mine are in threads here in the Bryce Forum, poor but serviceable. 4. To my knowledge, you are the first person to visit here who has not found us helpful. I think that says more about you than about us. I do not mean this as an insult, just an insight. 5. This IS a friendly place, believe or not. No one insulted you until you yourself began to be arrogant and insulting. I don't expect you to see it this way, but it is true. Please note that most of us have shown restraint and not insulted you at all. Also please note that you have thrown some very broad and very ugly insults at ALL of us, even those who have chosen to stay out of this, which is most of us. 6. The ages of the folks here varies from teenagers to middle-aged people like myself (I'm 52) so the maturity level varies here. Some of us are hot-headed, some are patient. I hope I have been patient with you. 7. Lastly, I am sorry we have not been able to answer your questions to your satisfaction. Perhaps you will have better luck somewhere else. Sincerely, John

This is not my "second childhood". I'm not finished with the first one yet.

Time flies like an arrow; fruit flies like a banana.

"I'd like to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather....not screaming in terror like the passengers on his bus." - Jack Handy