Ugh! I hate to carp. I am still downloading Flash but Freehand seems to be a conventional vector program. What was cool about SmartSketch was that it was a vector program masquarading as a raster paint program, there were no bezier tools, handles, control points, etc. Just pencils, brushes, paint buckets, eraser, and selection/dragging tool. Yet everything it created was pure vector and it had some neat stroke styles for the paths which were shown realtime. The main thing now that I am forced by my disability to type with my thumbs, and can't really paint very easily any more, was that you could set the degree as dynamic line smoothing as you drew, and set strictness rules for patern recognition so it could make quavering lines at any angle straight and any irregular attempt at a shape regular, but there were no polygon tool or such per se. What I need is a retailer who specializes in packaged obsolete software. All my favorite software is long gone, typically the were around 350Kb and served at least as well as the new bloat wear. WriteNow, ColorIt!, SmartSketch, Monet, were all amazing programs. I can't for the life of me discern what Microsoft WordPerfect does better then my old WriteNow :( Oh well. Thanks for the help :)