Jim, I mentioned Glamoros Jessi earlier in this thread. She's an excellent alternative to the standard Jessi and the re-work you've done to her joints are fantastic. Also the price your charging for here is much more than reasonable. I personally think that the Joint set up in here is probably the optimum, standard Jessi's toes are more work than needed for MOST renders, and the thought of working with them for animation.... well I don't have that kind of patience. Galorous Jessi certainly has my ighest recommendation! mike