Re the post by Chuck, #16, I have to say I would feel the same way. Not knowing the "paid" wedding photographer and his/her reactions...not wanting to get in the way of the official poses and importantly not to mess with the strobe set-up as lots of wedding guests do..I would be very uncomfotable. Most weddings I have attended(don't remember mine but the results are wonderful), the official photographer has asked clearly that no shots be taken while the wedding shoot is going on. One simply said, "please do not take pictures while I am working. When my shots are done, I will allow a minute for you to take pictures, then we go to the next shot." That was handled well but... Who knows..gotta talk to the paid photog first. Doug, your shots are great. There is a sense of creativity not seen often in pro wedding photographer images. Why? The answer is that the pro has a set of routines and set of poses and uses those. Those are the proven sellers and workable images the client is generally interested in purchasing. It is a business. Going pro often takes the joy away and the gravy of creativity bites the dust, whether desired or not, to the need to eat and be successful in the biz. That is true in many creative aspirations. The gravy is often "few and far between" times and times again of repetition of what is known to work right off. My little thought for tonight. TomDart. A pro in one field but not in photography. Would like to be at pro photo level...still with freedom to join the starving artists shows as needed to live! Yikes~ : )