All this 'Will DS replace poser?' stuff is total BS! DAZ have never made any mention of wanting to replace poser with another app. An alternative? Yes. A competitor? Yes, it probably will become that eventually. And why not? MC/CL/EF have had a monopoly on the poser market for a long, long time, and competition can only lead to improvements in both DS and poser. What are DAZ's motives? Pure and simple. The same as any other business. They want to expand their market, bring in new users, sell more content, etc, etc. What else do you expect them to do? Sit on their butts and wait for people to come to them? If developing a free software, or giving away the vicki/mike base figures for free is how they thing they'll achieve that goal, then why should we care? It's their business. Let them handle it. All they've done is create an embroyo alternative posing app. You'd think they'd started World War 3, judging by the reactions of some people. I use DS for some things, I use P4/5/6 for others. I don't that as being a disaster. The more choices I have, the better. And it didn't cost me a cent to get that extra alternative, which has to be a good deal in anybody's book. mac