Xenophonz, Daz can be pig somtimes, they were trying to lure poser users away by catcopying some things from Poser product and steal from its dervation development. I do not think efrontier really appreciate that. It is most likely that CL won't get along and ever will enter into cooperation agreement. However as a customer, I actually have no objection to it if Daz proved D|S to be useful for my business. For right now, I think DAZ is way behind on most things that CL have developed such as dynamics, library, and etc. So I am sticking with Poser.