I think its safe to say anything i make for a guy will be made for apollo, maybe the odd exception i suppose but i can't think of any at the moment......Jessi, James and Steph 3 are complete and V3 is almost done, just need to add morphs (good time to add you vote for which body morphs :o).....They come pretty low Carolly, for bathroom visits and/or when you need to go if flying a fighter bomber type with no loos, Actually Canberras use to have a fixed toilet pipe, but never seen anything similar on modern aircraft so not sure what they do there LOL......anyway back to the subject, i think what you are seeing is the seam, it gets a bit complex down there with the long zip......Steve