yea, i'm in the same frame of mind... dialup is someone's twisted sense of torture [snort] i'll check back on your product page for the thumb after a spell... kind of figured those shots posted were purposefully geared towards the bodyshape, and even said as much to someone when we were discussing what the textures might look like and why there wasn't an accompanying image [gotta keep in mind that for me at least, it's far more about textures than morphs when considering purchasing] thanks for responding to the request... truly...