thanks for the update, but erm, Gabe? do what you have to do first... not that you should give a rat's arse what i think, but as you said - everytime you come out w. something successful, blahblah - well, you know, there will always be people and there will always be criticism, and though i'm not for playing doormat, sometimes just ignoring a thing says far more & has more impact rather than stirring an already fractious group... i mean i'm sure you're already aware that money & egos can generate lethal qualities in a person[s], and gosh, i think the best response is to start working on something new and take more of the marketshare... besides, i'm not in any hurry to whip out my credit card and go further into debt [not that i'm not open to that ... twisted little grin], so take your time... sometime in the next couple of days i'll come looking... :)) cheers