"The GIRL is modeled with her legs out and bent forward" The bent forward bit is what causes most of the problems here. I initially thought that out + forward was a good idea, then I did this silly thing called internal alpha-testing (I created a mesh with just enough form/detail to get an idea of general appearance, then moved the legs into position, and dropped it into Poser and rigged it). The forward-ness isn't necessary at all, and causes problems in fact, as you've seen. The reason is, as anyone can plainly see, is that there isn't another body part anywhere close to either the front or back of the legs to interfere with bending. Additionally, you can rig an existing Poser figure's leg correctly, with the drawback that the other leg will get distorted. Therefor, some clearance is needed on either side of the legs in order for distortion to be kept to a minimum. The outside is no problem, obviously, so we have plenty of space to swing outward, although we still want to keep this to a minimum. 30 degrees or more, and you get new problems that you don't want. When I set up my current figure, I rotated the buttocks 5 degrees out, and the thighs 10 degrees. A bit of re-rigging was needed, since this is based on V2RR, but now the bending is almost perfect. I also took the mesh into MarbleCLAY to smooth out the buttocks, and then recreated the buttocks as a morph, which helps immensely. I used MarbleCLAY because it has a smoothing method which keeps seams between body parts from getting separated. I have since re-rigged a few clothing items, which conform quite well. I may begin to create things more seriously (as in: for release to the public) once I see that eF has decided to fix the things in Poser that really need fixing: LIGHTS + UNDO + ability to use ANY Renderman implementation, not just Firefly. I want real GI rendering from Poser, and I want it in Poser 7. I do not want them to try and add it to Firefly, however. Hell, I wouldn't even mind if they released a higher-priced Poser 7 Professional Edition, with Air bundled instead of (or in addition to) Firefly.