Okay...I'll consider your point made. Still, within the context of the question "which is better to start learning 3d on" Bryce is a less bad choice than Poser. Interesting tidbit. I've talked a bit in forums with professional comic-book artists. There are rifts in the comic field over how to use references, but in the end it is said that Poser is sometimes useful to them as an artist's mannequin. Because of the absurd anatomy, however (the lack of an actual anatomical structure and the proper jointings), it has to be treated as essentialy one of those wooden figures. Okay for rough reference, not to be trusted beyond that. I am a truly amatuer pencil artist myself, but I've tried using Poser that way. It helps to get an idea of foreshortening and can even help to rough in a composition, but even I can see how the anatomy is not to be trusted. And how far off the question of "Bryce v. Carrara" have we gotten? It's been a fascination conversation nonetheless.