< "or possibly reflected objects." no, you can delete these too, reflecting objects don't actually cast light back into the scene.> Actually I was referring to objects that are off scene but can be seen as a reflection (in a window or a mirror). A couple of years ago I did a scene of a couple in a cafe. There was a cupid, reflected in the windows, but not visible in the scene itself. (It was for a Valentine...) The cupid could not, obviously, be deleted.... Cheers, Diolma