@CrazyDawg
lol - Sorry man ;-)

@sackrat lol - Slightly used? Didn't they stop production like 20 years ago :-) @wolf359
I'm considering EBay, but I'll see if I get lucky here first. And yes, as far as I'm aware it does offer an upgrade path to version 9 etc.

The upgrade path is indeed "there", but it's unfortunate that Maxon have chosen such an unrealistic and "majorly" unfair tactic of upgrading.

I'm not "Anti-Maxon", their software is awesome, and their support has been without fault. Unfortunately, that does not compensate for the fact that I "will not" be forced to pay for suff I don't need, and as far as I'm concerned that's exactly what they're doing.

For someone who lives where there's no work, buying into a professional system is hard enough, so when Maxon announced that Cinema4D would become modular, I thought woohooo - I'll have some of that.

I was lead to believe that buying the new Modular based core would allow people on a tight budget to gradually build a system that they need over time. So I decided to go for this system.

So I bought XL6, and then when my budget allowed, I bought the BodyPaint module for it, and that was great - I was starting to build a system I liked and could actually get along with.

But then came Bodypaint R2 which I could not use with my current core, so I would have to buy a version8 core. So, reluctently I bought the version8 core, and then I also bought the Advanced Render module to boot.

Again great stuff, but hang on...then I decide to buy the animation module, and was promptly told that my new core along with its AR module is no good, so then I've got to buy a new core, a new render module, and then I can buy the animation module version with cloth, and then surprise surprise I can also buy the R2 version of BodyPaint which will finally work with this now system.

I'm sorry Maxon if you're reading this, but when I'm told I can expect to upgrade my core with future modules, I expect to be able to do "just that". NOT to have to re-buy one core to make yet another module function, which then in turn becomes obsolete, when I need to buy a third core in order to get the animation with cloth module to work, which in turm makes all my previous modules out of date.

This upgrade philosophy stinks as far as I'm concerned - and I will say so. The sooner I sell this to someone who can afford such an "epic-scale" upgrade path - the better.

For those of us who can't afford such strategies, I sincerely hope that Maxon will rethink their methods, and at least offer the poorer amongst us a chance to buy the older obsolete plugins at a discount, if we wish to do so.

If anyone doesn't agree with me on this - tough. I have this system, and I know when I'm being forced to buy stuff I don't need, just to make something else function - and someone else very rich!

I for one was always a big fan of their software, but I'm now a majorly alienated customer.

Len.

The wait can be horrific, but the outcome can be worse - pumeco 2006