This reply is an edited repost from another message I made in the vue forum: To achieve an effect like this (see piccy) is really easy. I'm using the Vanishing point Executive helicopter as an example, and the EH Blade Blur Props (avaliable from freestuff here) as it's the right scale. Import the heli. Edit the grouped object and remove the top rotor. Make an alpha plane, scale it to what looks good and use the freebie blade props as the image source. Simple as that, but only for for static renders. Animation is more tricky because it doesn't seem possible to have an animated object within a group and then animate the group. I'm using Vue 4 [standard].

Pinky - you left the lens cap of your mind on again.