@-cheers, there are actually a few very stable rigged characters at c4d cafe that use mocca.You might want to check them out maybe.As for claude bonet,I never used it, I always stick with selection tags and point selections.C4d also needs the joints to be modeled in a certain fasion for the best deformations possible. I have posted examples for rigs at c4dcafe.com Check this thread out: http://www.c4dcafe.com/ipb/index.php?showtopic=5670&hl=point+selections I'm MilesBaskett over at c4d cafe, so PM me or start a thread If you want to discuss character rigging more at length.I'm always up for it.This is pretty OT for a bryce forum...lol.

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