Lessee now - for the fancy one on the right... Cylynder. Boolean with another cylinder. Add a couple of toruses (tori?) for the rims. Boolean 2 spheres together to make a lens-shaped object, flatten it. Replicate in a circle (how many of those are there anyway?), then duplicate and move in "z". Use the 2 to boolean out the wotchamacallems in the ring. Small sphere, replicate in circle, duplicate twice and position to be between the wotchamacallems. Apply textures and some bump-mapping... Would that do it??? Well, you said it might be inspirational. I got lost after I inspired... (takes another deep breath and decides that enough is enough..) Oh, and change DOF... Cheers, Diolma