Gog, really you should check out LightWave and download their new feature demo clips. When you consider what they've just added you will get; >The best renderer (always has been IMHO) >New soft AND hard-body dynamics with cloth built-in >Great animation abilities >Superb hair system with Sasquatch (Seperate module) Now as far as I'm concerned, when you add the current price of LightWave and Sasquatch, it comes in waaaaaaaaay cheaper than going for XSI Advanced, so to me personally it's an obvious choice (nothing else on the market can match that power for that price) :-) Seriously Gog - go check out LightWave/Sasquatch, and forget about Max/Maya/Cinema. Len. BTW that was a great first attempt at your pic :-)

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