Hi Len I'll check out LW, it's been a long time since I've looked at it, my last package purchase was maya 4, but I find I just don't use it, sticking with Max 3.1. I just feel like these packages are now too old and don't offer newer things I'd like to use such as normal mapping and better workflows, hence looking around to see what to buy, it may be Max 8 which is due soon and includes hair, although I can see my wife objecting to the price tag. I guess with alias just being bought by autodesk I'll avoid Maya for the moment. Thanks about the pic.

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