I only agree Carol .. you have to have the eye for the potential in a flame .. same in the other fractal programs .. you need to have the feel for what you can take out .. and use with other layers .. and finally enhance into the final picture. Even a one-layered one .. the art is "seeing". And it is never like just picking up a sea-shell .. you almost always have to do something to it to really make it shine. It is here the work is .. it is here the art is created. :) .. Hugss zoozee :)