Umm.... I'm only a hobbyist (and have been using Bryce for a quite awhile), but I recently got Vue 5 I (mainly for the ecosystem). Initial perception: "Oh, this is so much easier!" Later perception "errrrmm .. how do I do (whatever it was I was used to doing in Bryce)" It's a different monster. It can do a lot more than Bryce can, but occasionally there are bits that Bryce can do which Vue can't. It takes a different approach to creating stuff than Bryce does. Learning curve takes a while.. If you've got the cash, I'd say go for it (especially V5I), but DON'T get rid of Bryce - for some scenes, Bryce is quicker and easier. Oh, and just to add, although the Vue render is (usually) quicker than Bryce's it ain't always so.. But, all in all, I'm beginning to to prefer V5I to bryce. Now, where are all those NVIATWAS Poser pz3 files that I though I'd saved?...