I thought of only participating in the contests as a forum moderator, but did not want the work to be voted on. I think that has moderators, we should host the forum and the contest. Gary you bring up a salient point. However, I am sure Man Ray and others like him, did not stop, when creating, to think about whether or not their work was traditional. There is nothing traditional about what I do, in the sense that it follows a typically given, structured format. My head is just too full of other things to bother. However, in doing bi-monthly subjects, I may reserve the right as well as others, to just say okay, thats great like it is, in it goes, or I see color, and darkness, and want to change it, etc. I only use what is available to editing a photograph, color, light, lens, and the almighty post tool of photoshop, and my brain (well we could argue about that one LOL.