Thanks for the tips, diolma. On my picture above, could the collar be the problem? That's what broke. The underlaying garment worked, just not the collar. There are 2 layers to the collar. Perhaps there was some overlap that caused the problem? Do all dynamic cloths have to be welded? Maybe that is the problem. I wonder if I should make the whole collar a constraned group, or just convert it into a conforming figure. Hmm.... bB