Eric- Thanx! I always know I can count on you for quick turnaround! :D Shonner- According to Bob during the chat, the pre-order, since it's a download, does not normally include the printed manual. I lost track (bcause I was SUPPOSED to be working at the time ;) but I think he said the printed manual was going to be made available for sale, if wanted. But I thought he also said something about a form to fill out, so I really think they haven't made up their mind yet. I doubt it will be automatically sent though, either way. Hope this helps. Ringo (or anyone else for that matter)- Are you going to make the chat available for everyone to download? Thanx in advance!