I do know that a bump map gives height. Doesn't mean - (apart from vaguely moving the mouse around in Bryce's terrain editor) - that I know how to make one. If I could have found any metal plates - I've have shot them from every place I could. (at right angles though) I have found a few metal tutorials but they usually seem to skip a lot of steps that were taken to produce the final product - ie pretty awful tuts. Bar one for Brushed Metal that was complete - and extremely simple. Please don't appologise for a lenghty reply - the longer, the more info, so the better, from my point of view. PS Those bad tuts were not here in R'osity, but it's not easy to find anything but stuff for Poser in R'osity.

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