Well, the Mover 5 CD on has installations for Vue 4 and Vue 4 Pro. I bought it about a year ago, probably when Easel was either still in alpha or beta-testing stage. You mean to say that there are patches for Mover 5 on e-on's site? I'd like to animate objects in Easel that export obj files and import Poser 6 animated characters. -scara