ROFL Ringo, no need to copy-paste the eovia website. I've read it all. And stand by what I said. BTW, saying things like "Poser support is much better than Vue" does sound a bit like a loose statement, esp. considering Carrara 5 doesn't even support Poser 6! I'm not interested in "evangelism". My question isn't about whether Carrara is better than Vue (I wouldn't drop Vue if I got C5 - I'm very happy with it, thank you), but whether SSS is really SSS, or only just absorbtion. That's the only thing that would justify me getting the C5 upgrade.