exactly... Quote: "As was stated, the Hot 20 will see a change, just not very soon." That was 3 months ago, Nick, what happened to that? Disappeared in the freezer? We have the impression that Barbara had too many tasks taken on her shoulders that she had no time to spend on her tasks here, as she had suggested the new FWW and FVS to begin with. Seems to me you both take too many tasks on your shoulders that you both have no time for this fractal-community anymore. So perhaps it is time to either take a few things off your shoulders, or elect another, more dedicated and devoted, fractal artist to be a moderator and/or codinator here. But like Evie says, we Dutch can't speak up our minds as we are used to, and prolly should stick our heads in the sands, for otherwise we are either missunderstood or taken as we are making trouble. Please don't take us wrong, we are also there to improve the community, as we are also those who make our contribution to the gallery with our art and designs, but it seems easier for the both of you to spread the tasks to others than to have to disappoint us with messages like Barbara spammed this forum with. Have a nice weekend Harmen