Hi lmckenzie, that's what I am thinking. The other two you mentioned, were more intended to show off the product or WIP but I really did intend for this one to be more work of art than promo. I was really pleased the way it turned out as I find myself often cursing Poser 6 underneath my breath, and this is one of the best renders, IMO, I have gotten out of it. Particularly as far as taking advantage of the better render engine and lighting. The fact that the 1 Mil BC has gotten quite a few viewings and some nice comments made me think that folks were agreeing, at least in part. I am sure there are those who only noticed the tatas. hehe But maybe some appreciate the effort at artwork. :o) Thanks for the nice comments.