All this being said I have often wondered at all the fantasy adventure renders. Hmmm, running around all the time protecting the realm, slaying evil creatures and using big honking swords with those pipe cleaner arms. And keeping that "soft" look. That "soft" look is actually more realistic (not the pipe cleaner arms, mind you). When people use female bodybuilders as the height of unattractiveness, and provide photos, inevitably those photos are of the women in contest shape which, like male bodybuilders, involves dehydrating as much as possible and reducing body fat to levels that would be deadly for an extended period of time to get the most definition. Offseason, fat builds up and there's a lot more fluid which softens the curves in men and women. In women especially it softens the face. I've seen female bodybuilders (and fitness competitors) who are, bluntly, ugly as sin during contests and who are either, at worst, average looking and often quite attractive when they have more normal body compositions. (Yes, steroids have an effect, but I'm not counting that.) In the real world, someone who'd need strength who wasn't on a carb-reduced/low fat/low fluid would have more softer curves, male or female, and wouldn't have the stereotypical female bodybuilder skull-face. All you have to do is long at the strong man competitions (which sometimes have events featuring female competitors) to see it. Not many of them are classical-shaped Grecian statues in shape for men, and the women don't look like bodybuilders in a competition.