What has all of this to do with my suggestion for a skin texture that could highten the detail and emphasize the effect of vascularity on V3? I did not invite argument about 'Female Body Builders'. People should respect the fact that female body builders devote their lives to building a beautiful muscular physique and they still look feminine. Making comments such as:"I do not consider this to be attractive, for either men or women" as RWB64 has said is biased and unfair and has nothing to do with a V3 muscular skin texture. If you want to pick out muscular females to emphasize a point of argument where you say that muscular women look ugly then you should first look at female body builders such as: Tazzie Colomb, Marja Lehtonen, Collette Nelson, Melissa Coates to name just a few of these ladies who are beautiful and every bit feminine.