Quote - People have gotten on these boards asking about textures for black people or morphs for heavy-set people, but no one would, or should, reply by linking to a picture of a black person or an overweight person and saying that they don't consider this attractive for a man or woman. It's just plain wrong to do so.

My "butt ugly" comments are not racially based. I don't care if the muscled up person is black, white, red, or a little green man from Mars. A well toned body is nice to look at. Something like in that link above is monstrous and hideous to behold. For the record, I also find that Arnold Schwarzenegger's body during his "Terminator" days, was pretty gross looking too. There is a point where "fit" becomes hideous, and those that take bodybuilding to the extreme cross into that realm.

"It is good to see ourselves as others see us. Try as we may, we are never
able to know ourselves fully as we are, especially the evil side of us.
This we can do only if we are not angry with our critics but will take in good
heart whatever they might have to say." - Ghandi