Cobaltdream - I did look into Blacksmith 3d - extensively. I worked with Dave (Conan) on solving some OpenGL issues I was running into using the demo, basically helped him do quite a bit of debugging and then he just sort of dropped out, without ever getting my OpenGL problems totally resolved. Additionally I have not been overly enthused at the results people seem to be getting from that application. I'd have dropped $60 on it just to see if I could do better with it, but with the OpenGL issues not resolved for me it was a non-starter. OpenGL works just fine for me in every other application which uses it, so I'm pretty certain it's an implementation issue confined to Blacksmith 3d - I don't have an esoteric computer system by any stretch. It seems (to me, totally subjective opinion) that the best morphs/characters are produced using ZBrush or something at or above its level. Unzipped