Doug - I think you caught the thread as the others were loading? You posted just a minute after the last photo posted. Thanks for looking. tibet2004uk - I am not sure about the first one, just had some fun playing with the effect. These were just some practice sessions with my wife and daughter (both not real happy to be my guinea pigs!) But I had just got some wireless radio slaves to trigger my flashes off camera, so I had to try them out. Also first time using hotshoe flashes for portrait. Shoot them using umbrellas. Thanks for looking.