I understand your point Radart. I have had the hoots and hollers on stuff That I spent very little time on and The spend hours etc on something I get nada. What I was meaning is I take everything with a grain of salt. That doesnt mean I think its ok to be down right mean either. But we cant really control that can we? I would still be fine even with "lousy head". I am used to people being rude..I work in food service industry. "Wink" Rudeness sucks, but it is part of life and Unfortunately we have to deal with it. I think It was great for lady cherry to stand up for someone. I know it hurts to have people say you suck, or its ugly, or to rip you work to shreds etc. I am sorry If you took me the wrong way radart. I was cretainly no condoneing what Niti said. Just giveing my point of view.