I am tired and I am normally that way when I am posting here but perhaps hard coded is the wrong term. My creatures and aliens also have it as part of the INJection deltas and then, when you chage the eye position, it stays right where it should since the values are semi-permanently changed. You can apply just about any pose without any problems. Since the file is outside the standard pose file it doesn't get reset, like it would in ExprssnImg's case. CR2 altering is another way to go but it isn't allowable (in general) so that is why I never even considered it. The way I did it in my characters was the best way from all that I gathered at the time and after advisng by DAZ but it was also a couple of years ago and I am a bit rusty. But it does work. Later