I am also on the beta test team. Our lips are sealed as to features, new stuff, whatever, but I can tell you this: Corel's put a lot of work into it so far, and there's more to come. It's definitely going to be A Really Cool Upgrade and you're all going to want to get it. Even the beta testers haven't seen all the cool new stuff yet. There is no word on an ETA for Bryce 5 to hit the shelves. I'd guess sometime this summer, but that's pretty much a wild guess... but the press release on Corel's site said "early next year", it's unclear whether they meant early 2001 or early 2002.... I hope it is done before 2002 rolls around. --flick