May I suggest something? Please check the amount of MEMORY you now have allocated to PPP. When I installed it, it reset to factory defaults (bare minimum) from the 200MB I'd given Poser4. Why did I give Poser4 200MB when I haven't started using Vicki or Michael? (Isn't Cammy a Vicki version?) Too many layers of textures on my little guys! Once they are dressed and propped, they can easily have a dozen texture maps applied to them. The error message would say "can't find bump map" or "can't find texture map" and then it would crash cold. I have no idea why it would say that it couldn't find the bump map when it really was out of the memory to go hunting for it, but I don't write error messages. (If I did, they would be friendlier and helpful.) Anyway, try allocating more memory to the program and see if that helps. Carolly