Alrighty we might be almost there. The scale problem was rectified by putting in a .15 because the 1.15 gave it 100% more plus 15% since it's normal configuration is 100% it gave it something close to 215%. Now the eye position. It seems no matter what I do, it doesn't change. The joint centers seem to be solid. The x tran - y tran and z tran do not budge. They do move with the simple version but of coarse do not stay when a pose is applied. I tried to lock it in somehow but am not sure what all the code means. translateZ ztran { name GetStringRes(1028,14) initValue .009 hidden 0 forceLimits 0 min -100000 max 100000 trackingScale 0.001 keys { static 0 k 0 0 } interpStyleLocked 0 valueOpDeltaAdd NO_FIG head:1 PBMCC_20 deltaAddDelta 0.009000